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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My driver is 12 degrees, and I let the stick do the talking.  Even better, IF someone new starts to give me crap, I just hand it to them and watch them out-drive their current driver. (All my regular partners in my league have hit it, and 3 have converted to 12&#039;s themselves.) I would love to get a Thriver with no less than a 14 degree loft, preferably 15 or 16 so I can have a decent gap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My driver is 12 degrees, and I let the stick do the talking.  Even better, IF someone new starts to give me crap, I just hand it to them and watch them out-drive their current driver. (All my regular partners in my league have hit it, and 3 have converted to 12&#8217;s themselves.) I would love to get a Thriver with no less than a 14 degree loft, preferably 15 or 16 so I can have a decent gap.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put the loft on the driver.  If you play this game and are insecure about the equipment you use, then quit.  I have 12 and 13 degree drivers and tell anyone what their lofts are. If they mention something about my manhood, I will usually say something back after I outdrive them and outscore them.  I would rather be out 230 or 240 and have the ball in play, then 270 in the bushes.  Most people that make comments about loft are ignorant about the modern golf ball and launch angle.  A co-worker of mine uses a 7.5 degree Ping driver and is very inconsistant. 

I like the way the trends are going with this driver.  It should have more loft, shorter length and higher head weight.  Distance is overrated at the amateur level, so keep the ball in play and you will lower your scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put the loft on the driver.  If you play this game and are insecure about the equipment you use, then quit.  I have 12 and 13 degree drivers and tell anyone what their lofts are. If they mention something about my manhood, I will usually say something back after I outdrive them and outscore them.  I would rather be out 230 or 240 and have the ball in play, then 270 in the bushes.  Most people that make comments about loft are ignorant about the modern golf ball and launch angle.  A co-worker of mine uses a 7.5 degree Ping driver and is very inconsistant. </p>
<p>I like the way the trends are going with this driver.  It should have more loft, shorter length and higher head weight.  Distance is overrated at the amateur level, so keep the ball in play and you will lower your scores.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m playing the new Acer XK. I almost REALLY like it. It&#039;s my second one (Jeff...we&#039;ve talked, and I thank you for great support on this)...that being said, I feel there are a couple of things that need to get talked about here...

In general, I wish the component industry would stop giving us &quot;game improvement&quot; clubs. In my humble opinion, they are not. Those clubs encourage golfers to hit the ball with a less than correct swing. I&#039;ve been saying this for years...nobody pays attention. No one paid attention 15 years ago when I was talking about Launch Angle...suddenly it became &quot;chic&quot;. I&#039;ll go out on a limb and predict that one day the manufacturers will wake up and realize that &quot;game improvement&quot; technology is a dead end. But I digress...

This particular driver when combined with a light shaft, gives me more distance, and at 47 inches I&#039;m able to keep up with a lot of the younger guys (I&#039;m 62)...I like the Pear-shape, I like the feel of the face, but...

I wish it had weight ports and a square face. I cannot set up with my hands behind the ball at address, and it&#039;s very hard for me to take the ball on the upswing and not slice it. It requires that I manipulate the club with my hands (incorrect). I know that the 9.5 degree version has a square face, but the 10.5 gives me optimum launch angle...so I&#039;m stuck.

Weight ports would typically allow me to reduce the the headweight to around 190-192 grams instead of 200 and allow me to build a club with a lighter overall weight and get a bit more clubhead speed. Or, you could start out with a lighter weight and let us add the weight we choose.

I was playing the Q-System deep-face with a Graffaloy Prolaunch 55. I hit that pretty far, but got no roll after the ball landed. This combination with the XK and a shaft with a higher kick point seems to be about right and the stiffer tip adds enough roll that I can play a few courses from the back tees again.

As far as the &quot;game improvement&quot; movement...it has mandated 15 clubs instead of 14 (the notorius &quot;gap&quot; wedge - accurate lofts leave no gap), and fostered the concept that you don&#039;t need to have a good (correct) swing to play good golf. I understand that there are specific people and specific circumstances where more offset, a closed face, less loft, etc. may be desireable...but they should not become the norm. Good clubfitting does not always require selling the customer new clubs...sometimes it requires a recommendation that the golfer take some lessons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m playing the new Acer XK. I almost REALLY like it. It&#8217;s my second one (Jeff&#8230;we&#8217;ve talked, and I thank you for great support on this)&#8230;that being said, I feel there are a couple of things that need to get talked about here&#8230;</p>
<p>In general, I wish the component industry would stop giving us &#8220;game improvement&#8221; clubs. In my humble opinion, they are not. Those clubs encourage golfers to hit the ball with a less than correct swing. I&#8217;ve been saying this for years&#8230;nobody pays attention. No one paid attention 15 years ago when I was talking about Launch Angle&#8230;suddenly it became &#8220;chic&#8221;. I&#8217;ll go out on a limb and predict that one day the manufacturers will wake up and realize that &#8220;game improvement&#8221; technology is a dead end. But I digress&#8230;</p>
<p>This particular driver when combined with a light shaft, gives me more distance, and at 47 inches I&#8217;m able to keep up with a lot of the younger guys (I&#8217;m 62)&#8230;I like the Pear-shape, I like the feel of the face, but&#8230;</p>
<p>I wish it had weight ports and a square face. I cannot set up with my hands behind the ball at address, and it&#8217;s very hard for me to take the ball on the upswing and not slice it. It requires that I manipulate the club with my hands (incorrect). I know that the 9.5 degree version has a square face, but the 10.5 gives me optimum launch angle&#8230;so I&#8217;m stuck.</p>
<p>Weight ports would typically allow me to reduce the the headweight to around 190-192 grams instead of 200 and allow me to build a club with a lighter overall weight and get a bit more clubhead speed. Or, you could start out with a lighter weight and let us add the weight we choose.</p>
<p>I was playing the Q-System deep-face with a Graffaloy Prolaunch 55. I hit that pretty far, but got no roll after the ball landed. This combination with the XK and a shaft with a higher kick point seems to be about right and the stiffer tip adds enough roll that I can play a few courses from the back tees again.</p>
<p>As far as the &#8220;game improvement&#8221; movement&#8230;it has mandated 15 clubs instead of 14 (the notorius &#8220;gap&#8221; wedge &#8211; accurate lofts leave no gap), and fostered the concept that you don&#8217;t need to have a good (correct) swing to play good golf. I understand that there are specific people and specific circumstances where more offset, a closed face, less loft, etc. may be desireable&#8230;but they should not become the norm. Good clubfitting does not always require selling the customer new clubs&#8230;sometimes it requires a recommendation that the golfer take some lessons.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Summitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Summitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles:

The USGA has a &quot;plain in shape&quot; rule in Appendix II of the Rules of Golf that would prohibit driver shapes like putters.  If you have a copy of the Rules of Golf in your golf bag or know someone who does, thumb through the 10 plus pages of rules designers must abide by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles:</p>
<p>The USGA has a &#8220;plain in shape&#8221; rule in Appendix II of the Rules of Golf that would prohibit driver shapes like putters.  If you have a copy of the Rules of Golf in your golf bag or know someone who does, thumb through the 10 plus pages of rules designers must abide by.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, this is great! Wish all companies would do this!  Thinking outside of the box, can a driver head be made in the shape of some of these newer U shaped or !_! shaped putters?  In windy Oklahoma these 30mph winds catch the driver head and ruins your drives.  Why the box shape?  Is it required by the USGA?  Can&quot;t you make a face with balancing extensions like on the putter?  I think the less head you have, the less likelihood of the wind interference,,,,and it could increase your swing speed!  Okay, okay, I will crawl back in the box and shut up.  PS...maybe there is a way to dial up the desired loft....right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, this is great! Wish all companies would do this!  Thinking outside of the box, can a driver head be made in the shape of some of these newer U shaped or !_! shaped putters?  In windy Oklahoma these 30mph winds catch the driver head and ruins your drives.  Why the box shape?  Is it required by the USGA?  Can&#8221;t you make a face with balancing extensions like on the putter?  I think the less head you have, the less likelihood of the wind interference,,,,and it could increase your swing speed!  Okay, okay, I will crawl back in the box and shut up.  PS&#8230;maybe there is a way to dial up the desired loft&#8230;.right?</p>
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		<title>By: Hireko Wants You To Help Design Our Next Driver From The Ground Up! Part 6&#160;&#124;&#160;Hireko Golf Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hireko Wants You To Help Design Our Next Driver From The Ground Up! Part 6&#160;&#124;&#160;Hireko Golf Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on our Blog, or better yet participating, you probably have wondered what the status of the “Hireko Wants You to Help Design Our Next Driver from the Ground Up!” campaign is. In our last segment, we showed you the CAD images and the picture of the rapid [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on our Blog, or better yet participating, you probably have wondered what the status of the “Hireko Wants You to Help Design Our Next Driver from the Ground Up!” campaign is. In our last segment, we showed you the CAD images and the picture of the rapid [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Antoine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I am dreaming for a second, I would like to see drivers and very important, also graphite shafts with a swind speed indication.
For the driver head no loft indication, only swing speed, for ex: 65-75 for ladys,75-85, seniors, 85-95 average player etc.....  same for the various shafts with cpm indication.
Today every manufacturer has his one &quot;stiff&quot;, so this indication has to be checked with every new shaft, a stiff can be very stiff or senior flex depending on the manufacturer.
Ok,guys  thanks for your time;
Keep them in short gras.
Antoine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I am dreaming for a second, I would like to see drivers and very important, also graphite shafts with a swind speed indication.<br />
For the driver head no loft indication, only swing speed, for ex: 65-75 for ladys,75-85, seniors, 85-95 average player etc&#8230;..  same for the various shafts with cpm indication.<br />
Today every manufacturer has his one &#8220;stiff&#8221;, so this indication has to be checked with every new shaft, a stiff can be very stiff or senior flex depending on the manufacturer.<br />
Ok,guys  thanks for your time;<br />
Keep them in short gras.<br />
Antoine.</p>
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		<title>By: mike mcmullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike mcmullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you noticed what the big guys haven&#039;t? Regular players need more loft in the driver. A 460 head with 13.5 to 15 degrees of loft is just what the doctor ordered. Also how about offering an offset head along with the conventional. I play a Polekat driver now with 15 degrees of loft and always in the fairway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you noticed what the big guys haven&#8217;t? Regular players need more loft in the driver. A 460 head with 13.5 to 15 degrees of loft is just what the doctor ordered. Also how about offering an offset head along with the conventional. I play a Polekat driver now with 15 degrees of loft and always in the fairway.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antoine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,guys.

Tiger is using a 10° driver, his SS is 125mph, so most off the golfers out there should use a driver loftet like a 7 wood because of the lower SS.
Of corse this is impossible to sell, because even with intelligent people receptif to scientific arguments to much is to much.
Please hide the loft and make it as much as possible.
I am a 7 hcp and I use a 12° xmoi in summer and a 13° acer in winter.SS 106mph.
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,guys.</p>
<p>Tiger is using a 10° driver, his SS is 125mph, so most off the golfers out there should use a driver loftet like a 7 wood because of the lower SS.<br />
Of corse this is impossible to sell, because even with intelligent people receptif to scientific arguments to much is to much.<br />
Please hide the loft and make it as much as possible.<br />
I am a 7 hcp and I use a 12° xmoi in summer and a 13° acer in winter.SS 106mph.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Remickulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remickulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth is, most golfers are macho sado-masochists and believe that playing anything over a 10.5 deg driver is for seniors and ladies...and they still can&#039;t break 90, or 100 even. Lookit, most golfers need loft on their driver, period. I like this idea, it is honest and will improve most golfer&#039;s games. I agree, don&#039;t put the loft on the head so no one feels like the weenie in a bunch of &quot;macho men&quot;. Let it be our secret that we can hit the ball 220 to 250 in the fairway 90% of the time, while the 9 degree driver guys hit it 220 to 250 in the rough if they are lucky to get that far...

I am 40, 25 handicap, and with my 12 shafted stiff I hit it 250 to 270 fairly consistently...and it is a 43&quot; shaft as well. I say go with the 13 degree and offer a stiff shaft for those who can hit over 100mph speeds. Not only that, but offer to balance it so you can have a 43&quot; shaft instead of a 44&quot;... Tiger&#039;s shaft is 43&quot; for control, and he is the best golfer in the world. What does that mean for the rest of us hacks? High loft, short shaft, more consistant shots...distance is fairly irrelevant if you are over a 10 handicap anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth is, most golfers are macho sado-masochists and believe that playing anything over a 10.5 deg driver is for seniors and ladies&#8230;and they still can&#8217;t break 90, or 100 even. Lookit, most golfers need loft on their driver, period. I like this idea, it is honest and will improve most golfer&#8217;s games. I agree, don&#8217;t put the loft on the head so no one feels like the weenie in a bunch of &#8220;macho men&#8221;. Let it be our secret that we can hit the ball 220 to 250 in the fairway 90% of the time, while the 9 degree driver guys hit it 220 to 250 in the rough if they are lucky to get that far&#8230;</p>
<p>I am 40, 25 handicap, and with my 12 shafted stiff I hit it 250 to 270 fairly consistently&#8230;and it is a 43&#8243; shaft as well. I say go with the 13 degree and offer a stiff shaft for those who can hit over 100mph speeds. Not only that, but offer to balance it so you can have a 43&#8243; shaft instead of a 44&#8243;&#8230; Tiger&#8217;s shaft is 43&#8243; for control, and he is the best golfer in the world. What does that mean for the rest of us hacks? High loft, short shaft, more consistant shots&#8230;distance is fairly irrelevant if you are over a 10 handicap anyway!</p>
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