Comments on: Hireko Wants You To Help Design Our Next Driver From The Ground Up! Part 4 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/ Professional Golf Equipment at Down to Earth Prices! Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:26:29 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Hireko Wants You To Help Design Our Next Driver From The Ground Up! Part 6 | Hireko Golf Blog http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1626 Hireko Wants You To Help Design Our Next Driver From The Ground Up! Part 6 | Hireko Golf Blog Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:07:46 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-1626 [...] out the previous “Design our next Driver” blog posts: Part 5 Part 4 Part 3 Part [...] [...] out the previous “Design our next Driver” blog posts: Part 5 Part 4 Part 3 Part [...]

]]> By: Zane Yurkiw http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1576 Zane Yurkiw Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:34:25 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-1576 I would like to the study that supports cup face technology. I am a traditionalist and do not support the 'spring-like effect'.Simply the ball is not flung from the clubface, it springs free of the clubface. Anything in the way of studies that support the spring-like theory would perhaps change my view. In addition, the people responding should indicate their credibility, i.e. engineer, weekend golfer, etc. While any and all responses are good, there has to be something more then marketing. I would like to the study that supports cup face technology. I am a traditionalist and do not support the ’spring-like effect’.Simply the ball is not flung from the clubface, it springs free of the clubface. Anything in the way of studies that support the spring-like theory would perhaps change my view. In addition, the people responding should indicate their credibility, i.e. engineer, weekend golfer, etc. While any and all responses are good, there has to be something more then marketing.

]]> By: Mark http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1561 Mark Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:29:20 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-1561 The stripe has to go. Cup face is good. A screw isn't necessary. Less than 460cc is OK as long as performance isn't compromised. When this discussion started I thought the head might end up similar to the Wishon 505F/D which is 200cc. Something between this and 460cc would be fine. The stripe has to go.

Cup face is good.

A screw isn’t necessary.

Less than 460cc is OK as long as performance isn’t compromised.

When this discussion started I thought the head might end up similar to the Wishon 505F/D which is 200cc. Something between this and 460cc would be fine.

]]> By: Andrew Wood http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1479 Andrew Wood Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:23:38 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-1479 Racing stripe - NO! Assymmetrical shape - NO! Simply, anything that is atracting attention at address is distracting. I remember this well from the insert in the crown of the Ping Rapture. To put it another way: go with the shape in your diagram and I wouldn't touch it. a) I don't like assymmetrical, and b) everyone will simply scorn it as a Diablo-clone. DON'T DO IT! 460cc and cup face & VFT. Make this a performer! Off-centre forgiveness is a very high priority for the market this is aimed at. Square or round? How about squarish? ;o) By which I mean: take the line from the hosel (as looking at the crown in your diagram) to the rear corner. Repeat the same line/angle from the toe the corresponding rear corner. Then join up the two. It makes the club head distinctive in it's own right, and retains symmetry. Hosel position. The diagram looks to have a slightly offset hosel. Maybe better is to have the hosel pushed right up to the corner, right on the limit of, but not, offset. The Ping Raptuure 13.5° is a perfect example of this (and one of the straightest drivers I ever played). Racing stripe – NO!
Assymmetrical shape – NO!
Simply, anything that is atracting attention at address is distracting. I remember this well from the insert in the crown of the Ping Rapture.
To put it another way: go with the shape in your diagram and I wouldn’t touch it. a) I don’t like assymmetrical, and b) everyone will simply scorn it as a Diablo-clone. DON’T DO IT!

460cc and cup face & VFT. Make this a performer! Off-centre forgiveness is a very high priority for the market this is aimed at.

Square or round? How about squarish? ;o) By which I mean: take the line from the hosel (as looking at the crown in your diagram) to the rear corner. Repeat the same line/angle from the toe the corresponding rear corner. Then join up the two. It makes the club head distinctive in it’s own right, and retains symmetry.

Hosel position. The diagram looks to have a slightly offset hosel. Maybe better is to have the hosel pushed right up to the corner, right on the limit of, but not, offset. The Ping Raptuure 13.5° is a perfect example of this (and one of the straightest drivers I ever played).

]]> By: Tony http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-1002 Tony Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:16:25 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-1002 Are you making progress on the Thriver? I'd love to try it out- minus the racing stripe. Are you making progress on the Thriver?

I’d love to try it out- minus the racing stripe.

]]> By: Rich http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-998 Rich Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:37:32 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-998 Hi Jeff My comments as follows, Cup face for sure... 460 cc for sure... 6/4 ti is ok as well... I like the screw for $4. Swingweight remains important. Custom fitting is the current theme and adjustability fits that niche Racing stripe... Seems to be a love it or hate it... This is a game improvement head from the specs. The racing stripe is a great visual for the proper swingpath...inside/out.... But here would be my concern... Paint quality. The metallic paint used on XK drivers is nice, but combine this with say the red paint used on the bottom of the SQ2 driver or Caiman and it would really look cheap. Maybe a more subtle Ping style of hologram or really nice quality finish will make the difference between a dud and desirable look. Can we have these in stock next week???? Ha! Best regards and nice job so far.... Rich Hi Jeff

My comments as follows,

Cup face for sure…
460 cc for sure…
6/4 ti is ok as well…
I like the screw for $4. Swingweight remains important. Custom fitting is the current theme and adjustability fits that niche
Racing stripe… Seems to be a love it or hate it… This is a game improvement head from the specs. The racing stripe is a great visual for the proper swingpath…inside/out…. But here would be my concern… Paint quality. The metallic paint used on XK drivers is nice, but combine this with say the red paint used on the bottom of the SQ2 driver or Caiman and it would really look cheap. Maybe a more subtle Ping style of hologram or really nice quality finish will make the difference between a dud and desirable look.

Can we have these in stock next week???? Ha!

Best regards and nice job so far….

Rich

]]> By: James H http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-976 James H Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:24:39 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-976 I agree with Steve J. leave off the red stripe. Also, every single driver in your line-up should have a 9.5 degree because it gives you credibility...if you don't have a 9.5, then you aren't seen as mainstream. I believe you should have an all black driver with the pvd finish (low-handicap, as in hitting from the tips), a chrome silver "special edition", A "white driver" - and I mean white in color or ivory, or ceramic or something (mid-handicap or hitting from white tees) and a blue for high handicap. The color scheme should be about 92% solid...with the other 8% consisting of a logo, maybe a strong graphic or something but no big freakin stripes like on your mock up....just a clean look...In fact just put an enlarged logo and maybe a couple of strips or arrows...(if you want a point of reference check my site for the nickent Special Edition Driver...it is sweet. I think having a draw model is great...Oh, check the adams golf site www.adamsgolf.com..they have a set of gun metal colored irons that are out of this world...not that I buy or sell them cuz I don't but I think it is something to think about. I agree with Steve J. leave off the red stripe. Also, every single driver in your line-up should have a 9.5 degree because it gives you credibility…if you don’t have a 9.5, then you aren’t seen as mainstream. I believe you should have an all black driver with the pvd finish (low-handicap, as in hitting from the tips), a chrome silver “special edition”, A “white driver” – and I mean white in color or ivory, or ceramic or something (mid-handicap or hitting from white tees) and a blue for high handicap. The color scheme should be about 92% solid…with the other 8% consisting of a logo, maybe a strong graphic or something but no big freakin stripes like on your mock up….just a clean look…In fact just put an enlarged logo and maybe a couple of strips or arrows…(if you want a point of reference check my site for the nickent Special Edition Driver…it is sweet. I think having a draw model is great…Oh, check the adams golf site http://www.adamsgolf.com..they have a set of gun metal colored irons that are out of this world…not that I buy or sell them cuz I don’t but I think it is something to think about.

]]> By: larry f http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-977 larry f Sun, 31 May 2009 22:14:14 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-977 Performance is just as important as appearance. Head shape is okay, but graphics are cheesy. Performance is just as important as appearance. Head shape is okay, but graphics are cheesy.

]]> By: steve j http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-979 steve j Sun, 31 May 2009 03:35:37 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-979 I agree with the the red stripe leave it off! will make it look cheap. keep it simple the weight screw idea any more is kind of a joke!! head size 440-460 ok carbon or mag top is the way to go and try not to make it look like some other companies club make it your own club not a clone type the acer xk and caiman drivers are great they look uniqe 9.5 degree to 14 would be ideal 6-4 ti is ok. nice gloss black or maybe even a deep burgandy almost black in color. catchy name to the thriver seems corny I agree with the the red stripe leave it off! will make it look cheap. keep it simple the weight screw idea any more is kind of a joke!! head size 440-460 ok carbon or mag top is the way to go and try not to make it look like some other companies club make it your own club not a clone type the acer xk and caiman drivers are great they look uniqe 9.5 degree to 14 would be ideal 6-4 ti is ok. nice gloss black or maybe even a deep burgandy almost black in color. catchy name to the thriver seems corny

]]> By: steve j http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2009/05/27/hireko-wants-you-to-help-design-our-next-driver-from-the-ground-up-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-978 steve j Sun, 31 May 2009 03:28:03 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?p=1082#comment-978 <blockquote cite="#commentbody-14274"> <strong><a href="#comment-14274" rel="nofollow">Jack Romain</a> :</strong>If you are making a game improvement driver, then 460cc size and variable thickness cup face should be used as well as standard 6-4 titanium for the cost savings. Now if you were making MY ideal driver….</blockquote>

Jack Romain :If you are making a game improvement driver, then 460cc size and variable thickness cup face should be used as well as standard 6-4 titanium for the cost savings. Now if you were making MY ideal driver….

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