Comments on: How is the Lie and Length of a Golf Club Interrelated? http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2007/11/05/how-is-the-lie-and-length-of-a-golf-club-interrelated/ Professional Golf Equipment at Down to Earth Prices! Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:09:44 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Jeff Summitt http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2007/11/05/how-is-the-lie-and-length-of-a-golf-club-interrelated/comment-page-1/#comment-171 Jeff Summitt Wed, 06 May 2009 21:20:54 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?page_id=182#comment-171 Ian: I guess it is because we adopted the English system when building clubs. That is clubs would vary in 1/2" length and 1* lie increments. Why? Simplicity. For the sake of example, it could have very well been 0.44" and 0.8* increments, but would have been hard to measure without some sort of template. The 1/2" increments has been a staple for a while, but now we see lie changes in 3/4"* and 1/2* intervals as well. These naturally change the B dimension as well as the C dimension (as shown in the tables). It is possible to alter these so the B length is constant, but then you would end up with different swingweights, unless the head weight were designed specifically for the unique lengths. Ian:

I guess it is because we adopted the English system when building clubs. That is clubs would vary in 1/2″ length and 1* lie increments. Why? Simplicity. For the sake of example, it could have very well been 0.44″ and 0.8* increments, but would have been hard to measure without some sort of template. The 1/2″ increments has been a staple for a while, but now we see lie changes in 3/4″* and 1/2* intervals as well. These naturally change the B dimension as well as the C dimension (as shown in the tables). It is possible to alter these so the B length is constant, but then you would end up with different swingweights, unless the head weight were designed specifically for the unique lengths.

]]> By: Ian Seaders http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2007/11/05/how-is-the-lie-and-length-of-a-golf-club-interrelated/comment-page-1/#comment-170 Ian Seaders Wed, 06 May 2009 18:52:04 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?page_id=182#comment-170 Jeff: Could you explain why there is such a difference in the B length within a set? Shouldn't this length be about the same throughout the set to maintain a consistent swing? Why not just change the lie and shaft length and keep the hands in a consistent position at address? Thank you for your great article. Ian Jeff:
Could you explain why there is such a difference in the B length within a set? Shouldn’t this length be about the same throughout the set to maintain a consistent swing? Why not just change the lie and shaft length and keep the hands in a consistent position at address?
Thank you for your great article.
Ian

]]> By: Jeff Summitt http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2007/11/05/how-is-the-lie-and-length-of-a-golf-club-interrelated/comment-page-1/#comment-167 Jeff Summitt Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:50:53 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?page_id=182#comment-167 Don: I don't know I would go as far as have the player hit every club off of the lie board. Perhaps go with a long, mid and short iron and watch the ball flight. Then you could connect the dots so to speak with the lie angles you determined on those to provide a uniform transition from one club to the next in the set. There may be times when the lies may not be uniform for a particular golfer, yet they hit the ball at their intended target line. They may be gifted enough to adjust visually to the club and have the hand and eye coordination to make the ball go where they want. The main thing we are worried about is results. Sincerely, Jeff Summitt Hireko Golf Don:

I don’t know I would go as far as have the player hit every club off of the lie board. Perhaps go with a long, mid and short iron and watch the ball flight. Then you could connect the dots so to speak with the lie angles you determined on those to provide a uniform transition from one club to the next in the set. There may be times when the lies may not be uniform for a particular golfer, yet they hit the ball at their intended target line. They may be gifted enough to adjust visually to the club and have the hand and eye coordination to make the ball go where they want. The main thing we are worried about is results.

Sincerely,

Jeff Summitt
Hireko Golf

]]> By: Don Garlow http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2007/11/05/how-is-the-lie-and-length-of-a-golf-club-interrelated/comment-page-1/#comment-168 Don Garlow Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:17:51 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?page_id=182#comment-168 Hello, Jeff; Good explanation. But, is there any validity or benefit to the player in having the player hit every club off the lie board and then adjusting each club to hit center of the sole? It would seem that this method would provide more accuracy than a fixed interval method considering that there are different methods these days. In doing so, I have found that there may be no uniform sequential progression from club to club. Let me know, please. Hope all is well, old friend. Don @ Keystone Clubsmith Golf Performance Center, LLC Hello, Jeff;
Good explanation. But, is there any validity or benefit to the player in having the player hit every club off the lie board and then adjusting each club to hit center of the sole? It would seem that this method would provide more accuracy than a fixed interval method considering that there are different methods these days. In doing so, I have found that there may be no uniform sequential progression from club to club. Let me know, please.

Hope all is well, old friend.

Don @ Keystone Clubsmith Golf Performance Center, LLC

]]> By: How is the Lie and Length of a Golf Club Interrelated? http://blog.hirekogolf.com/2007/11/05/how-is-the-lie-and-length-of-a-golf-club-interrelated/comment-page-1/#comment-169 How is the Lie and Length of a Golf Club Interrelated? Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:23:58 +0000 http://blog.hirekogolf.com/?page_id=182#comment-169 [...] As mentioned in the “How is the Lie of a Golf Club Measured?” article we stated that the lie of a golf club is closely tied together with how the length of a golf club is measured and one can’t usually be mentioned without the other. To help understand this concept better, let’s examine different sets of golf irons that are all of the same length (that is each set has the same length …continued [...] [...] As mentioned in the “How is the Lie of a Golf Club Measured?” article we stated that the lie of a golf club is closely tied together with how the length of a golf club is measured and one can’t usually be mentioned without the other. To help understand this concept better, let’s examine different sets of golf irons that are all of the same length (that is each set has the same length …continued [...]

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